Post by ARENIS on Sept 15, 2023 16:58:31 GMT
I put this into the LD section because this is the situation when you 'wake up' from a dream-state (roaming F2) and then go on lucid within the confines of a more ‘bizarre’ dreamscape-F2 or enter the Void (shortly) or go to F3 (via the Void or not) for some more interesting adventures in the wider astral.
Tonight I had an experience where I got from F2 to the Void but first let me remind us of the “Venetian Blinds” concept / technique of Frank Kepple with this quote from an Astralpulse thread:
My recent experience a few nights ago of “breaking the F2-bubble” was a bit different though, and this can be seen quite literally.
Tonight I had an experience where I got from F2 to the Void but first let me remind us of the “Venetian Blinds” concept / technique of Frank Kepple with this quote from an Astralpulse thread:
[K]nowing where you are at in the general scheme of things you want to then make another transition. What you need to find, if you can, is the 3D blackness, or the Void as mystics tend to call it. This is the “border” between Focus 2 and Focus 3 of consciousness. You should be able to “see through” your dreamscape and intertwined with it will be a kind of aperture. Remember, the Focus areas are not places. When you mentioned this word, you put it in double quotes so it looks like you realise this already. But I’m stressing it again here for the benefit of anyone who hasn’t yet picked this up. (...)
[Y]ou need to “detune” your focus of attention from Focus 2. In a way, it’s like looking at one of those subliminal pictures that were all the rage a number of years ago. The ones where you apply a soft focus and the picture comes into view. Take the same idea and do this within Focus 2. What we are creating, in effect, is a highly controlled overlay experience. As you do this, you should start to see, like, slats with a blackness inbetween them. Imagine a large vertical Venetian blind that was in front of an identical Venetian blind. Each blind had a large picture painted over the slats. Imagine this picture being representative of you objectively viewing a focus area or focus of attention. Now fully close both blinds.
So now, you can see the whole picture of blind one and nothing of the picture painted on blind two behind it. Imagine the picture you can see now as your current dreamscape, i.e. Focus 2. Imagine the picture painted over the slats of the blind behind as Focus 3. Now slowly open the first blind and turn the slats through 45 degrees. At which point you can still see the picture but it’s broken up. Now the picture is interspersed with the picture on the slats of the blind behind it. The act of opening the blind is like “detuning” your focus of attention. This is what I mean when I say you should start to see “slats” with a blackness between them. You can still see your dreamscape but it is interspersed with the 3D-Blackness, which is the “border” between Focus 2 and Focus 3 of consciousness.
If you were to open the imaginary blind so the thin edge of each slat is now directly facing you, you would not be able to see the initial picture at all now. All you would see is the picture painted on the second blind, which takes up your full focus of attention.
Note: when this happens you don’t actually “travel” anywhere. You can if you want to. You can start “flying” around all over the place if you want to. But doing that just gets in the way of any kind of serious work. Now and again, it’s good to have a fly around. However, if you want to start making good inroads you must resist the urge to play around within Focus 2.
So “detune” your focus and when you see the slat-effect appear, keep your attention focused on the blackness between the slats. The slats should seem to turn wider open to the point where your previous dreamscape will fall away entirely. Now you will be standing on what feels like a precipice. It will feel like that “behind you” is where you have just “come from” and before you is the infamous Void, the bane of many a mystic, lol. But this is just the 3D-Blackness at Focus 21 of the Monroe model.
www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_permanent_astral_topics/how_can_i_leave_foc_2-t18538.0.html;msg160373;topicseen#msg160373
(link now defunct because the URLs have changed due to the recent forum move, need to update it)
[Y]ou need to “detune” your focus of attention from Focus 2. In a way, it’s like looking at one of those subliminal pictures that were all the rage a number of years ago. The ones where you apply a soft focus and the picture comes into view. Take the same idea and do this within Focus 2. What we are creating, in effect, is a highly controlled overlay experience. As you do this, you should start to see, like, slats with a blackness inbetween them. Imagine a large vertical Venetian blind that was in front of an identical Venetian blind. Each blind had a large picture painted over the slats. Imagine this picture being representative of you objectively viewing a focus area or focus of attention. Now fully close both blinds.
So now, you can see the whole picture of blind one and nothing of the picture painted on blind two behind it. Imagine the picture you can see now as your current dreamscape, i.e. Focus 2. Imagine the picture painted over the slats of the blind behind as Focus 3. Now slowly open the first blind and turn the slats through 45 degrees. At which point you can still see the picture but it’s broken up. Now the picture is interspersed with the picture on the slats of the blind behind it. The act of opening the blind is like “detuning” your focus of attention. This is what I mean when I say you should start to see “slats” with a blackness between them. You can still see your dreamscape but it is interspersed with the 3D-Blackness, which is the “border” between Focus 2 and Focus 3 of consciousness.
If you were to open the imaginary blind so the thin edge of each slat is now directly facing you, you would not be able to see the initial picture at all now. All you would see is the picture painted on the second blind, which takes up your full focus of attention.
Note: when this happens you don’t actually “travel” anywhere. You can if you want to. You can start “flying” around all over the place if you want to. But doing that just gets in the way of any kind of serious work. Now and again, it’s good to have a fly around. However, if you want to start making good inroads you must resist the urge to play around within Focus 2.
So “detune” your focus and when you see the slat-effect appear, keep your attention focused on the blackness between the slats. The slats should seem to turn wider open to the point where your previous dreamscape will fall away entirely. Now you will be standing on what feels like a precipice. It will feel like that “behind you” is where you have just “come from” and before you is the infamous Void, the bane of many a mystic, lol. But this is just the 3D-Blackness at Focus 21 of the Monroe model.
www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_permanent_astral_topics/how_can_i_leave_foc_2-t18538.0.html;msg160373;topicseen#msg160373
(link now defunct because the URLs have changed due to the recent forum move, need to update it)
My recent experience a few nights ago of “breaking the F2-bubble” was a bit different though, and this can be seen quite literally.
I am outside in a 'city' at nighttime in a crowded F2 ‚place‘ with bizarre surroundings and people. At one point I get half lucid and want to do a retrieval but I am only shown two men who want to be given money (they are not homeless though) and I give one a 20 euro bill or so. I realise though this is not retrieval action action and am tired of the strange crowd and ‚bizarreness‘ around me. I see through the illusion and am suddenly fully lucid.
Well aware to be - as so often - trapped in F2, I shout: "I am out of my body now!" Loud and several times!
Then at first I hear and feel a large background boom (deeply sonic BOOOOM, feels a bit from 'underground' although the earth was not shaking). Then the scenery suddenly falls quiet and with no activity at all. It all seems ‘frozen’ after the boom or like you stopped a movie you just watched. One thing is changed: I see no people anymore. It is actually a bit creepy.
Then some action happens: All the (former) scenery's elements such as people, houses, streetlamps, cars etc. formed themselves into balls or bubbles that rise up in the air (like balloons or soap bubbles) while I actually do the same (without being a bubble though). I then discover that one ‚balloon‘ is the face of a known comedian / late show host in my country, he's staring at me and smiling, and think ‘oh how funny’ (maybe that was the message then, not to take all of the F2 mess too seriously?).
Then it all fades after the ‘balloons’ or ‘bubbles’ have flewn away and I am in the Void.
I did it. I crushed the scenery.
Unfortunately, I cannot use it to my further advantage this time because at that point I think too much of my own body and therefore snap back / wake up or maybe time was up anyway due to the length of the episode.
Well aware to be - as so often - trapped in F2, I shout: "I am out of my body now!" Loud and several times!
Then at first I hear and feel a large background boom (deeply sonic BOOOOM, feels a bit from 'underground' although the earth was not shaking). Then the scenery suddenly falls quiet and with no activity at all. It all seems ‘frozen’ after the boom or like you stopped a movie you just watched. One thing is changed: I see no people anymore. It is actually a bit creepy.
Then some action happens: All the (former) scenery's elements such as people, houses, streetlamps, cars etc. formed themselves into balls or bubbles that rise up in the air (like balloons or soap bubbles) while I actually do the same (without being a bubble though). I then discover that one ‚balloon‘ is the face of a known comedian / late show host in my country, he's staring at me and smiling, and think ‘oh how funny’ (maybe that was the message then, not to take all of the F2 mess too seriously?).
Then it all fades after the ‘balloons’ or ‘bubbles’ have flewn away and I am in the Void.
I did it. I crushed the scenery.
Unfortunately, I cannot use it to my further advantage this time because at that point I think too much of my own body and therefore snap back / wake up or maybe time was up anyway due to the length of the episode.
I understand from this experience, Frank's expertise and similar 'waking-events' (need to check my journal if I find more of the kind) that suddenly getting lucid is not enough because normally we are still trapped in F2 and need to take action.
Normally I do more direct techniques for OBEs / astral projections which avoids getting aware in dreams, it's not my preferred strategy so to speak (with e.g. daily reality checks or affimations to become lucid in dreams). But it does happen occasionally to us projectors anyway of course, and if it happens it still is cool and one needs to make the best of it - which is for me to 'escape' F2, the lower or private astral planes.
Normally I do more direct techniques for OBEs / astral projections which avoids getting aware in dreams, it's not my preferred strategy so to speak (with e.g. daily reality checks or affimations to become lucid in dreams). But it does happen occasionally to us projectors anyway of course, and if it happens it still is cool and one needs to make the best of it - which is for me to 'escape' F2, the lower or private astral planes.
So my question is, what are your memories or what happened when you 'woke up' and then broke the bubble and went from a dreamscape on the astral lower levels (F2) to something more clear (F3) or the Void? Any cool stories and event or technique to share? I am sure there's more than bubbles or slats.
So what did you do to make it happen or do you feel it was done to/for you?